Admit grandchildren as foster children - is that possible?

Sometimes parents are no longer able to care for their child and then the question arises whether the grandparents accept the grandchild as a foster child. Read what you need to do here.

Admit grandchildren as foster children – is that possible?

Due to family problems, more and more children no longer grow up with their parents, but are placed in foster families. The question arises as to what extent it makes sense for grandparents to take in a grandchild as a foster child.

Reasons for grandparents’ care

Taking children out of their own family is often very stressful because, despite difficult circumstances, the family is the most important environment for a child. If the parents are no longer able to take care of the child, there are various reasons for the grandparents’ care. Such reasons can be:

The familiar milieu is preserved
Grandparents are familiar with family problems
Good relationships with the grandson are (mostly) guaranteed
Grandparents’ sense of responsibility
Understanding and empathy of the grandparents for their own relatives
Child’s contact with parents is facilitated

Legal requirements to accept a grandchild as a foster child

In principle, grandparents can also take grandchildren as foster children. According to § 44 I No. 3 SGB VIII no care permit is required for this. Unfortunately, the youth welfare office still refuses applications for financial support, which was recognized by the legislature in a judgment of October 1st, 2005 as illegal. Because grandparents are related to their grandchildren in a direct line, this relationship does not constitute an obstacle to providing help.

This is how you proceed if you want to take in a grandson as a foster child

If grandparents want to take care of one of their grandchildren, then they should in any case apply to the family court for care and the provision of educational support in the form of full-time care. Since such an application may be rejected by the youth welfare office, an objection should be lodged within the statutory period of one month. If this does not help either, the applicant again has one month to file a complaint with the administrative court.

Costs of a care by the grandparents

» Apply for child benefit
Grandparents who have a grandchild in their care as a foster child can apply for child benefit at any time. To do this, it must be verifiable that the child actually lives in the grandparents’ household. The application is made to the Family Fund of the Employment Agency.

» Maintenance and care allowance
A recurring issue between the youth welfare office and the applicant is the grandparents’ obligation to maintain their grandchildren and the question of childcare allowance. Since the maintenance obligation does indeed exist, there may be reductions when applying for care allowance according to § 39 IV 4 SGB (Social Code) VIII. However, such a cut must be appropriate. On the other hand, it is illegal to reduce the care allowance for grandparents across the board, which is often the case with youth welfare offices. If the care allowance is reduced across the board by the youth welfare office, an objection should be lodged and if necessary sued.

Rights and duties of grandparents who look after their grandchildren

If grandparents take care of their grandchildren, the same rules apply to them and they have the same rights and obligations as unrelated foster parents. The goal is to be a foster child

to educate
to supply
and look after.

The exception is financial support, which is sometimes more problematic due to grandparents’ maintenance obligations. The main contact person during a nursing or full-time care is the responsible youth welfare office and the foster parents (also the grandparents) are obliged to cooperate with the youth welfare office. Since a foster child is usually only taken over for a certain period of time and the children are then supposed to return to their parents, the biological parents have the right to see their children and to maintain contact in this way. The youth welfare office forbids this contact only in very difficult individual cases.

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the parents of your grandson must both submit and sign an application for full-time care at yes. Does your son live with you in the household? Or does he have his own apartment? You are usually entitled to care allowance, since nothing has changed since 2005. But you also have to meet a few criteria before you get it. These sayings always from yes, most do not want to voluntarily pay care allowance to grandparents.

Admit grandchildren as foster children – is that possible?
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Sometimes parents are no longer able to care for their child and then the question arises whether the grandparents accept the grandchild as a foster child. Read what you need to do here.

Admit grandchildren as foster children – is that possible?
Admit grandchildren as foster children – is that possible?
Due to family problems, more and more children no longer grow up with their parents, but are placed in foster families. The question arises as to what extent it makes sense for grandparents to take in a grandchild as a foster child.

Reasons for grandparents’ care

The familiar milieu is preserved
Grandparents are familiar with family problems
Good relationships with the grandson are (mostly) guaranteed
Grandparents’ sense of responsibility
Understanding and empathy of the grandparents for their own relatives
Child’s contact with parents is facilitated
Legal requirements to accept a grandchild as a foster child

This is how you proceed if you want to take in a grandson as a foster child

Costs of a care by the grandparents

»Apply for child benefit
Grandparents who have a grandchild in their care as a foster child can apply for child benefit at any time. To do this, it must be verifiable that the child actually lives in the grandparents’ household. The application is made to the Family Fund of the Employment Agency.

»Maintenance and care allowance
A recurring issue between the youth welfare office and the applicant is the grandparents’ obligation to maintain their grandchildren and the question of childcare allowance. Since the maintenance obligation does indeed exist, there may be reductions when applying for care allowance according to § 39 IV 4 SGB (Social Code) VIII. However, such a cut must be appropriate. On the other hand, it is illegal to reduce the care allowance for grandparents across the board, which is often the case with youth welfare offices. If the care allowance is reduced across the board by the youth welfare office, an objection should be lodged and if necessary sued.

Rights and duties of grandparents who look after their grandchildren

If grandparents take care of their grandchildren, the same rules apply to them and they have the same rights and obligations as unrelated foster parents. The goal is to be a foster child

to educate
to supply
and look after.
An exception is financial support, which can be problematic due to the grandparents’ obligation to maintain them. The main contact person during a nursing or full-time care is the responsible youth welfare office and the foster parents (also the grandparents) are obliged to cooperate with the youth welfare office. Since a foster child is usually only taken over for a certain period of time and the children are then supposed to return to their parents, the biological parents have the right to see their children and to maintain contact in this way. The youth welfare office forbids this contact only in very difficult individual cases.

Hi there!
Is an expert always used for the health check? What is inquired about? What, respectively. what illnesses would be an exclusion criterion for a grandchildren? Do I have to release my doctors from confidentiality??
Thanks for an answer.
Wilhelmine

Hello Grandma Jenny,
Thank you for the comprehensive answer.
Yes, my son lives with us in the house, but also more as a child and not as a father.

I have now held talks with the youth welfare office in which I am now offered an appointment to make the application just mentioned.

Are there certain things that must be included in this application as conditions for a care provider? or what leads to the fact that the nursing staff is not recognized and rejected ?

Thank you very much
Grandma Tina

Hello, I am 61 years old and grandma. My two grandchildren are in an educational institution. I tried to apply for the foster home. It is rejected by the youth welfare office that I would be too old for a care provider. I can only see my grandchildren for four hours every month. It is frustrating. The youth welfare office, where the children are administered, completely ignores my application. I have no clue what to do. They put the children at the education center, with the option of staying there. For me it’s a cheek.

No, you only get a form that has to be filled in by the family doctor, but don’t worry, it is completely irrelevant, since it is more about alcohol and drugs.

Hello I would like to take my grandchild to me. I contacted jg and they wouldn’t mind. Now my question is that I take a drug against anxiety and a drug test would be positive because of the active ingredient diazepam.I do and do everything by myself with the drug everything is well under control can take care of my grandson very well. Now my question would the jg still leave my grandchild to me? Despite the drug? My doctor would also give me a certificate that it is not an abuse of the drug.
I would be very happy to get answers. After the jg knows nothing of my anxiety disorder.
Lg nicole

Dear Nicole,
we are also grandparents and have just passed the health check. This health examination is not without …, takes about 1 hour and costs EUR 30, which you have to pay privately. But only marginally. But you also have to give off blood and urine. Everything is examined, including drugs and alcohol. In this respect, there is no point in hiding medication. This is queried anyway. You should stay with the truth. If the doctor can confirm that there are no restrictions in everyday life, then a nursing home should not be a problem. Maybe you should get the certificate beforehand. With the youth welfare office, however, it is best to always play with open cards.

Hello Grandma Nicole,
I can calm you down. No, you don’t have to specify that and the Doctor will examine you as normal to see if you are just healthy. I’ve already done it all, so I know that.

You can also give me your email address and I will write you back.

Again about the health check: maybe you should also note at this point that it is quite possible that the health check will vary from state to state. We made ours in Schleswig-Holstein, Elmshorn. Maybe you don’t have to pay anywhere else. can be anything. And it was definitely the case that medication intake was queried. It has also been said very clearly that blood and urine are particularly tested for alcohol and drugs because there have been a few cases of abuse recently. With us everything was examined. Teeth, sense of balance, mind, eye test, hearing test, etc. Just everything. The vaccination status was also checked. We had a tetanus vaccination done right there, because of course it had been over for a long time. We had to strip down to our underwear and do quasi-sporty exercises to prove the fitness that you still need somewhere for the small children. So it was with us. And afterwards we were really tired of what they did to us. With us I mean myself (53 years) and my husband (47 years)
If the health check isn’t going to be that strict elsewhere, I would be really interested. Then it may also work if the medication is not mentioned. Maybe someone else has had experiences that he would like to publish here.

Hello granny jenny
Here is my email address I would be very happy to hear from you.
[email protected]
Lg nicole

Hello granny susi
That is really hard that you will be examined like this. I think with us it is not so bad to hear from the listener. Where on here we pay attention to infectious diseases as I heard it.

Why does it always take so long until the messages are released ?

Hello Nicole, because the comment function is abused by spammers every day and therefore all comments have to be examined first. I would also like to remind all readers here that all (including private) information published here is accessible to everyone! Please be careful and consider carefully which data you publish here.

Hello Grandma Susi,
So I’ve never heard anything like that you have to pay for it yourself. I know some grandmothers or grandparents now. Usually you don’t have to pay anything because the YES does something like foster parents. We received it and then had to go to the family doctor for an examination. There was nothing with a drug or alcohol test. I think it was the doctor’s fault. The state or YES should rather carry out an EDUCATIONAL CAPABILITY with some young parents, whether you are able to raise your own children at all.

Hello dagmar thanks for the info my cell phone nr or so would not write here publicly.
Grandma Jenny hope I got my email. I would be very happy to hear from you

I wrote you back two days ago. Please look under other.

Hello Grandma Jenny,
it is really strange that we had to pay for it. So we paid a total of over 60, – EUR. Each 30, – EUR. My husband too. We had to go to the health department. So do not go to the family doctor and cross. We have been told that we will only be reimbursed if the application for care is refused. I would have to make myself smart again …
But thanks for your message! It is really exciting what different experiences there are on this topic.

Hello Grandma Susi,
if you want you can give me your email address.

Sure, Grandma Jenny: here is my email: [email protected]
We already had contact last year! We even spoke on the phone when I was a beginner in terms of care!
LG Grandma Susi

hi dear.
my parents have taken care of my children for 2 years.
my question . my father suffers from narcissism and my mother is heart sick, both of them are very bad health.
furthermore, my children don’t even have their own retreat anymore … both sleep in the bed of my parents.
in my opinion the youth welfare office should be against it or do I see it wrong.

Dear Katja,
that sounds dramatic … How old are the children? The two should at least have a children’s room to play. The question is whether this temporary care runs through the youth welfare office or whether you do it privately. Otherwise, the youth welfare office should of course have checked the local conditions at your parents beforehand. That actually always does the YES. The health requirements must also be right. There is actually a health check before children are allowed to care for their grandparents. If neither of them can do it with the care (and you neither …?) Then the children and the grandparents are not helped. Then it may be Time to think about another solution. I myself am a "nursing grandmother" of my grandchildren (twins) and know how much strength it costs. You have to be reasonably fit in terms of health. If you are not satisfied or in agreement with the spatial conditions and you cannot or do not want to solve them, then you should include the YES. You should decide in the interest of the children.
LG Susann

Hi there
I am uli and learned today that my grandchild needs to be in a foster family, how can I apply that it comes to me .
thank you for your help

Dear Uli,
It is best to contact the responsible youth welfare office immediately! Your daughter has to do it
Agree and apply for permanent care or temporary care for the child yourself.
If you agree and you meet the requirements for care, speak for sure
Don’t mind. But you can’t actually answer that overall, because every case
It works differently …
Greetings from Grandma Susi

Hi there,
You have to speak to the youth welfare office. It is then checked whether you are suitable for it or not. Don’t let YES put you off so quickly. It is actually in the sense of YES that the children stay in the family if the conditions are right. Housing conditions are checked whether one works, married, certificate of good conduct, health certificate, etc.

hello everyone – I also have a question …
After 3 attempts at suicide within 8 weeks by the child mother since May of the year. also quasi single granny .. the girls are 6 and soon 8 years old …
I am (still) 52 years old and single (without partner) …
Regarding living conditions, it looks like we are currently sleeping together in the bedroom (the children have always had a bunk bed) and they are enjoying it too – but of course it would not be a problem to switch to the living room in the long term, so that the children can move into the room completely for yourself .
It now took several months until the child’s mother (my daughter) finally submitted an application to the Youth Welfare Office that I would be officially recognized as a foster mom / omi and thus be able to receive care allowance – so far no office (ARGE, social welfare office o felt responsible to support us financially …
Now I have an appointment for help plan discussion on January 17, 2018 …
What is there specifically for me??
It is the express wish of EVERYONE involved (me as a granny anyway, the mother and the children) that the children should stay in my household in any case.
I ask for serious answers.
Happy Christmas

Hello Omi Silke,
This conversation is probably about whether the youth welfare office is responsible for caring for relatives. So our application was rejected for the second time because there is no social pedagogical background with us. (whatever that means) because our grandson shows no abnormalities. I understood that the children are only recognized as foster children if they are regularly presented to the youth welfare office and have to achieve goals where a deficit or treatment is necessary.

Basically, there is no need for a youth welfare office if your daughter issues you with a proxy. We are now going to file an application to the Youth Welfare Office for financial support.

I wish you every success and keep your fingers crossed

Dear Grandma Silke,

this conversation will probably determine what type of care you are considering. There is short-term care, long-term care and temporary care (where the child returns to the mother after a set period of time). I don’t know what your daughter requested from the youth welfare office.
And in this conversation, the goals of nursing are also discussed. Is the mother able to take the children back later, etc..
Maybe you should consider moving in view of the small apartment so that you all have enough space. With long-term care you get financial support from the youth welfare office, so that a larger apartment would certainly be financially viable for you. The youth welfare office also checks your living conditions!
Of course you can also let the youth welfare office out completely, as Grandma Tina said. But then there is no care allowance either. Feeding 2 children, dressing them, going on vacation, etc. is not cheap and you cannot usually just afford it. They are happy about financial support. However, you then have regular distances these aid plan talks.
Basically, you don’t have to be afraid of this help plan conversation. You have to agree with your daughter as much as possible on what you want and what is best for the children!
P.S. Remember that you are entitled to child benefit from the time the children live with you. Don’t forget to re-register the children. If your daughter still receives child benefit, she would have to pass the child benefit on to you. If you apply retrospectively for the KG, your daughter will receive a heavy additional payment if she has not passed the KG on to you. Child welfare is often under-addressed by the youth welfare office.
Always inform yourself as best you can, so that nothing goes wrong with all the applications!
LG Grandma Susi

Hello dear, my grandson 8 years currently lives in assisted living, I would like to take the little one with me if my daughter agrees. I am 52 years old, I would have a chance to eat the little one. Am single and only have a 2 room apartment
lg Grandma Ela

Hello everyone, I just came across this page and would like to hear your opinion. My granddaughter has been on standby since February. Unfortunately, my daughter does not get a grip, it also matters that the youth welfare office works against her (in my opinion). Now a court hearing is pending and her custody should be withdrawn and the little one into a foster family. My daughter now wants to go to a mother’s and child’s house, which she has refused twice. After many thoughts, I have now decided to take care of it. My daughter and I didn’t always have the best relationship. But since the little one is here, it’s been great. You would also agree. Do I have to hire a lawyer, or do I try it alone? It’s also a question of cost. Unfortunately.

Hello I am also a grandmother and my grandchild has been in care officially through the court for three years now we have applied for care allowance to the youth welfare office we should take an exam with a CV and health use. Can someone tell me as the expires and what comes next

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