Suffering Creates
It’s been almost a year since renk. visited renk Mirza Odabaşı at his place in Dusseldorf. At the time, Mirza was working on his film, “Suffering creates” about the topic of Music and Identity. The focus of the film is hip-hop culture. We visited him in Berlin during shooting and interviewing him about his film.
How did the idea for the film “Suffering creates” come about?
A few months ago I listened to a song by Killa Hakan and Fuat from the album Rapüstad. All of a sudden I had pictures in my mind for a movie. I saw that my agenda was empty for two weeks. I’ve just got Killa Hakan and thought I’d just go to Berlin.
“Betweenculture” or “93/13 Solingen” to hip-hop culture?
I observe things about myself and try to convey these things to society. For me, the film “Suffering creates” deals with the question of whether or not people with an immigrant background have more or less access to hip-hop. People with an immigrant background make hip-hop more often than people without. It is not only like that in Germany, but in the United States and France as well.
How have you changed in the past ten years??
In my film, I mostly spoke with people who lived through and helped form the rise and development of this culture. Recently, I just got access to the project again, but I do not really know anything about the current developments in the USA or Germany. But, in my opinion, it’s a question of taste. I also want to put people in front of the camera who I actually think are good because I know that they have something to tell. I’m not just focusing on hip-hop culture you know, I’d rather just concentrate on societal problems.
Who are the people that show in your movie?
I speak with different personalities who reconcile themselves in hip-hop culture. Not only rap musicians, but also dancers, graffiti artists and street workers. Killa Hakan, Chefket, Eko Fresh, Fuat, Ebow X, Celo, for the film, I stitched together Berlin, Munich, Cologne and Istanbul & Abdi, Kadir Amigo Memis, Electro Hafiz, Senol Kayaci, Saiid Ismati, Encan & Murat Acikada.
Killa Hakan was a very conscious choice. He’s convincing, with his gangster image, but I was rapper Chefket as a contrast, who lives hip-hop culture in a very positive way. Thats two different products in Turkey.
Is it tiring, constantly meeting so many people?
Something connects me with these people and that really brings me further. No other experience would bring me so far. I never get to the point of boredom either because I choose topics that move me.
How do you prepare yourself for the conversations?
Not at all, really. I do not take any questions with and try to talk as little as possible with the people. That spoils the interview for me. These are all »maiden« conversations. When someone introduces themselves to the camera, it’s not the same. Authentic film material is really important to me.
“Where does your identity find itself again in your art?”
What do you want to achieve with “Suffering creates”?
Hip-hop culture has a similar position in the music scene as immigrants have in society or in their surroundings. Furthermore, access to hip-hop happens faster or even better when immigration happens. It’s enough if we take a look at the situation in Germany. Many youths with an immigration story consume culture on the other hand, you have a lot of hip-hop artists or rap musicians who have the same background. Rap music mostly communicates problems and even for those artists who do not have any immigration background it communicates dissatisfaction. Hip-hop is the voice for many people who can communicate their worries with simple mediums. It reminds me of what Celo and Abdi said to me while I was interviewing the interview: “Instead of throwing a Molotov cocktail at a police van, you confront society with your concern or your fury.” With the film, I do not want to excuse or justify anything that has gone wrong or is going wrong with many youths. And I also do not want to point the finger at anyone, either. But we need a lot of certain problems and misunderstandings in Germany.
Can you give us a summary of the process until now?
The material I’ve collected is really moving and I’m excited to bring it to the screen soon. The viewers themselves want to have their own conclusions.
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